Episode 29

Matt and Jon talk about Jon's planned 2021 pivot to more engineering, why long term collaborative relationships are so important, some details on vocal mixing, and Jon goes a record 38 minutes before talking about cooking. Streamed live on Instagram @matthewrad on November 24, 2020___________________________________ Jon Castelli is a multi-platinum, Grammy nominated mix engineer.

Show Notes

Live with Matt Rad - Episode 29
Nov 24, 2020
w/ Jon Castelli - Week 26

Show notes by: Bradley Will



The greatest barrier to entry to having a career in music the persevering through the times when you get rejected or people don’t give a shit about what you do.

Jon doesn’t usually strategize.

  • The go-with-the-flow mentality can be a weakness if you want to be a leader and make a lot of change.

  • Jon is about to make a pivot in 2021 to start becoming a recording engineer that he also will mix with one production partner. He wants to sculpt records from the beginning to the end.

  • He wants to be a part of a team like Quincy and Bruce.

  • He doesn’t want production credit. He wants that to be clear and preemptively remove everyone’s ego from the equation.

Tiger Woods took a break during the height of his success to rework his golf swing.

On the micro level the reason Matt is a producer is because he gets super obsessed with doing things for 3 week periods.

Self-motivating is the replacement for having the structure of a pre-determined career arc.

Jon stopped producing because everything he was producing was speculative and wasn’t always being released. Whereas mixing was 95% released.

  • Now with this collaboration there will be a much higher chance that the material will be released.

Q: Music is looping in my head while I meditate. Do you experience this?

Matt experiences this all of the time.

  • It happens every time Matt meditates.

  • Matt thinks about his crushing anxieties and mortality.


Jon never experiences it.

  • Jon describes himself as having a pretty detached relationship with music.

  • Jon’s version of this is that he sees recipes while he meditates.

  • When Jon is distracted during meditations it’s him thinking about plating dishes that he’s going to do in the future.

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The tendency is to overproduce when the vocals aren’t great.

  • If the vocal isn’t carrying the song’s emotion, then people tend to try and dress it up.

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It’s always important to realize that if you don’t think something’s great you might change your opinion later on down the road. That happens to everyone.

  • If the producer isn’t excited but the artist has a strong idea, then let them run with it.

Q: How do you deal with the aggressive sound of female vocals when they are belting?

Focus on mic technique and what room you’re in. Could be early reflections building up.

  • Do you want to retain the aggression, or get rid of it? You need to answer this.

  • Jon loves the Ozone 9 spectral shaper. To warm up the region without reducing it too much.

On aggressive vocals Jon will first control and then do a narrow band boost afterwards in that same area to recreate that harshness.

Q: What would your mix-buss be if you had to mix in the box?

Jon:

  • Would probably just use his subtle Ozone preset.

  • Jon might use some additional group processing.


Jon leans into his current mix buss, and so it might be hard for him to go without it at first.

  • Jon wants to mix through tubes that even out the harsh spikiness of certain frequencies.

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